Wake-up world to the real Muslim mission
Israel has no choice but to continue to fight for its survival with a unified people and a unified nation.
I have long said, this is not about land, but extermination of a nation, religion and culture which is not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing, but not the people. Would the Arabs still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and emphatic, it saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I have read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, many non-biased writings.
I have come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. The Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscated all their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. (which is 5 times the size of Israel) and valued in the trillions of dollars.
Those in power in the Arab-Palestinian leadership have rejected again and again any and all attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. They continue to teach their children and the masses hate and violence.
Don't start with who was there first, even-though in actuality there has never been in history an Arab-Palestinian Nation, but there has been a Jewish Nation homeland in Palestine-Israel for the past 4,000 plus years, although sometimes occupied by various empires. Israel has won and liberated their ancestral land in a defensive war, it is known that possession is nine tenths of the law. Israel is the rightful liberator and successor, having won and liberated its ancestral homeland in war, numerous times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one Arab culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking.
I hope Israel does not concede to any of the Arab demands, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves more vulnerable and endanger the safety and security of its citizens. Israel must not capitulate to world pressure. Israel's foremost duty and obligation is the safety and security of its citizens at all costs. Any responsible democratic country will do no less. Israel as a responsible democratic country must do the same. The end result will be that the world at large will respect a country that defends its people from harm and terrorism at all cost.
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The Muslim mission in the world is not only Israel but the rest of the infidel non-believers. Might I remind you, on 911, there was Arab terrorists who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.
The Muslims have killed over 50 million people since its inception 1500 years ago, and they will continue to kill anyone who they consider is an infidel. They have colonized the Middle East over the years. Slowly but surely they are taking over Europe, and if we are not careful they will take over the United States and other countries.
It takes more guts (courage) to make peace than to make war
ReplyDeleteMaking peace is harder than making war.
Can humanity overcome the urge to make war and pursue peace
Tolerance and peace is a two way street.
If you want peace and economic prosperity, both sides, show your resolve by taking bold actions, showing your determination to the benefit of all the people. You can accomplish more with honey than with vinegar.
We must pursue peace with passionate determination and vigor but we must have all parties desire for true peace.
A true and lasting peace in Israel and the Middle East will establish an economic prosperity of which the world has never experienced and all the people in the region will benefit from a true peace. Do not waste your time and money in promoting war and hostility. The people in power must utilize the resources and manpower to the economic advancement of all the people, this will promote tranquility in a region that has known strife for centuries. The leaders have to utilize funding to enhance education and promote innovation.
It is neither a culture of confrontation nor a culture of conflict which builds harmony within and between peoples, but rather a culture of encounter and a culture of dialogue; this is the only way to peace. We should require each party in this conflict to listen to the voice of their own conscience, not to close themselves in solely on their own interests, but rather to look at each other as brothers and decisively and courageously to follow the path of encounter and negotiation, and so overcome blind conflict.
The “greatest contribution to a sound and continuing peace in the Middle East would result from the development of trade and other economic relationships between Israel and the Arab countries. When nations are making progress and peoples’ opportunities for rising living standards are favorable, it is more likely that they will concern themselves with constructive achievements rather than with hostility and war.”
“Israel has the talent, technology and skills and by now the experience of dealing with the environment and the resources in the Middle East which are readily transferable. Therefore, it is entirely realistic to expect prompt and major developments in the Arab countries under peaceful and normal relations in that region,” “Israel’s economic growth is reasonably assured under any circumstances but only if she could divert the hundreds of millions of dollars now devoted to defense efforts could she not only speed her own development but also play a positive role in helping the economic expansion of the entire region.”
YJ Draiman
The U.N. cannot create states, it can only recommend and so can other nations only recommend and not create a state that never existed before in history. If they want an Arab-Palestinian state, it already exists, it is Jordan which has taken 80% of Jewish allocated land.
ReplyDeleteIn 1947, the UN Gen. Assembly passed Resolution 181 recommending the partition of Palestine. This did not create the State of Israel. The General Assembly does not create countries, make laws, or alter the Mandates (Mandates were a big brother system for setting up independent countries to be led by its native populations, with historic national connections to the territories). The Partition plan, was merely a recommendation.
The resolution also violated Article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine and therefore it also violated Article 80 of the UN Charter. It was therefore an illegal resolution.
What we call the State of Israel, along with her "legal" borders, was established in April 1920 with the San Remo Resolution of 1920 which terms are in affect in perpetuity. Only Israel can amend the terms if they sign a treaty with its Arab neighbors. Palestine was created for the first time in history as a country. It was created as the reconstitution of the Jewish National Home. The Partition Plan in 1947 was the result of a 1/4 century of illegal British policy (The English were a trustee for the Jewish people, but they violated that trust. the British wanted to control the Oil in the Middle East, for that they betrayed the Jewish people) that ripped internationally protected Jewish rights from the Jewish People, as the British allowed hundreds of thousands of Arabs to pour across the border from Syria and Egypt into Palestine.
The Jewish State's reconstitution was a fact 25 years before the UN existed. The Mandate was there to protect its survival, and it was terminated, not because the terms were completed, but because the British fled with their tails between their legs, and there was no
one there to administer the Mandate. But the terms of the San Remo Treaty have not been abrogated, it is applicable today and the future.
Does anyone think that after the Ottoman Empire surrendered and relinquished its rights title and ownership to Palestine and other territories to the Allied powers after WWI and the Allied powers set up and established 21 Arab States and one Jewish State. The 21 Arab State do not want to relinquish or redraw its boundaries and Israel does not want to concede any of its original boundaries set up in 1920 which included the Palestine Mandate. Non of the Palestinian Mandate was allocated to the Arabs in the 1920 San Remo Treaty.
The U.N. and the other countries must take into account and address the expulsion of over a million Jewish people from the Arab countries and the confiscation of land owned by Jewish people in the Arab countries, totaling 120,000 sq. km. (4 times the size of Israel) valued at over 15 trillion dollars and other personal assets confiscated by the Arabs countries totaling over 990 billion dollars.
The Jewish people resettled the million Jewish refugees from the Arab countries. It is about time the Arab countries who expelled the million Jewish people and confiscated their land and assets, must settle the Arab-Palestinian refugees once and for all without compromising Israel and bring about peace and tranquility to the region.
Neither the U.N. nor any Country in the world has the authority to create a state or dissolve a state, (check the U.N. charter and international law.)
Freedom of Speech Limitations
ReplyDeleteIf you are in a theater and you yell fire, when there is no fire and cause injuries to the audience at large by your yelling fire you have forfeited you right to free speech.
The same applies to anyone who promotes violence, incites the public to violence and sedition, Uses his freedom of speech to promote treason against the State.
Israel has bent over backward in protecting the right to free speech.
It is time for Israel to go on the offensive and utilize its laws to prosecute those who abuse their right to free speech, that right has its limitations.
We must hold Arab-Palestinians accountable for teaching hate, honoring terrorist and celebrating terror attacks.
Any capitulation or concessions to Arab-Palestinians demands breeds greater outrageous demands and more violence.
Israel’s P.M. should tell them – if you are not with us to protect our people at all costs – you are against us and you are contributing to the continued violence.
YJ Draiman
Freedom of Speech Limitations
ReplyDeleteIf you are in a theater and you yell fire, when there is no fire and cause injuries to the audience at large by your yelling fire you have forfeited you right to free speech.
The same applies to anyone who promotes violence, incites the public to violence and sedition, Uses his freedom of speech to promote treason against the State.
Israel has bent over backward in protecting the right to free speech.
It is time for Israel to go on the offensive and utilize its laws to prosecute those who abuse their right to free speech, that right has its limitations.
We must hold Arab-Palestinians accountable for teaching hate, honoring terrorist and celebrating terror attacks.
Any capitulation or concessions to Arab-Palestinians demands breeds greater outrageous demands and more violence.
I tell the Arab-Palestinians. Go ahead try and take my/our Jewish land if you want to try!
ReplyDeleteThere are laws that will stop you and than there is me/us the IDF that will stop you! We are done being pushed around by anyone. We will fight back and defend ourselves, we will not let the Holocaust repeat itself - NEVER AGAIN.
As it is now, Israel has the Jewish land by right!
That is just the fact!
I am also telling the rest of the world to mind its own business and stay out of Israel's internal affairs.
They have their own problems to contend with.
They were complicit during WWII when over 6 million Jews, men, women and children were exterminated. This will not happen again!
There is a real status quo that requires energy to make the change!
Are you going to put in the energy to try to change it???
Maybe it is better to cut your losses and accept whatever generous package we the Israelis offer you the Arab-Palestinians, because quite frankly under the current conditions we do not owe the Arab-Palestinians anything and we can just unilaterally set our own legal borders insisting that viable land for real Arab-Palestinians self determination already exists in Jordan which is 80% of Jewish allocated land under the San Remo Treaty of 1920!
The Arab-Palestinian can also relocate to the Jewish land previously owned by the million Jewish people who were expelled and their land confiscated by the Arab countries, the confiscated assets and land which is at least five times the size of Israel and is valued in the trillions of dollars.
Israel has resettled the Jewish refugees from Arab lands. It is time that the Arab countries resettle the Arab-Palestinians refugees, in Jordan which was suppose to be part of the Jewish state, or the 120,000 sq. km. of land that
the Arab countries confiscated from the Jews.
The options we are proposing to the Arab-Palestinians is more than fair, considering you are constantly terrorizing and killing our people every chance you get. That is what you tech your Arab children and masses to do.
It all depends on whether we can see the Arab-Palestinians
as peaceful neighbors and there is nothing that they have ever done to date
that can lead us to believe that they will be good peaceful neighbors!
YJ Draiman
Peace and coexistence between Israel and its Arab neighbors would be a dream come true!
ReplyDeleteI do not think that anyone could comprehend what a true peace and coexistence would bring to Israel and the Middle East.
As long as the Arab-Palestinians incite the masses to terrorize and commit violence against Israel and each other, peace and coexistence will stay a dream.
The Arab Palestinians must start by educating their children and the masses that violence begets violence and that the only way to improve their lives is to pursue peace and coexistence.
Stop celebrating and rewarding terrorists and those who commit violence and destruction. If the Arab-Palestinians truly want peace they must practice it. The leaders the Imams and anyone who has influence on the masses.
Both sides will have to be careful not to let the extremists jeopardize this approach and direction. There will always be someone who will try to sabotage any conciliatory coexistence. Both sides will have to set up a joint working group to address safety and security. Plan and implement the economic future of all the people. It is not going to be easy after a century of hostilities, but if there is a will there is a way and it can be done.
Both sides must learn to respect each other. It will help greatly in bridging the differences and bringing about the tranquility that is so greatly desired.
It must start by taking small steps and confidence building between the Israelis and the Arab-Palestinians. As the confidence building steps are accomplished, the flow of cooperation will increase, the animosity will decrease and the friendship and cooperation will increase. These will bring an economic prosperity and monumental surge in the standard of living.
Funds and resources that were used for advancing the conflict will be diverted to the economy and the advancement in the quality of life for all the inhabitants in the region.
A true peace will bring a tremendous economic prosperity to the region, which all the people in the region will benefit from.
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now.
What Is A True Jewish Leader?
ReplyDeleteThe Torah (The Jewish Bible) clearly expresses the true character traits necessary for leaders of the nation. It is not great rhetorical skills that will help a person succeed in leading "The Nation of Israel". The gift of self-expression is not a necessary component in the skill set of national leaders.
A Jewish leader is one who is meant to represent the nation as a whole, externally and internally, expressive ability is no more than an impressive external trait that occasionally has the power to cover for an internal void. That is not what sets apart the leader of the Jewish nation. A Jewish leader must have the ability to withstand external pressures and protect his people and the Jewish nation at all times.
The Jewish nation that appeared on the stage of history thousands of years ago did not begin as a nation with an impressive external appearance. On the contrary, for long periods, the Jewish people lacked military and political abilities. However, since its inception, the Jewish nation has represented a huge world of moral, ethical and just values, values which the entire world learned, some more and some less, and spread to cultures everywhere throughout the world .
A leader of the Jewish nation is not meant to stand out as having an impressive external appearance, but rather a significant internal appearance that also expresses the special characteristics of Jewish culture and humility. Moshe (Moses who lead the Jewish people out of Egypt, after hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. Moses who lead the Jewish people during their Exodus from Egypt, were attacked by various nations. Hence, the Jewish people had to learn how to defend themselves. Thus with the help of the almighty they were victorious), the Jewish nation’s first leader Moses, was “heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue,” and with this he signaled for us the correct path and the worthy considerations which should guide us as we choose our nation’s leadership.
A true leader of Israel has to lead from a platform of absolute faith. He cannot be just a politician. He has to embrace the history of the Jewish people and Israel. A leader of the Jewish nation has to understand what the Jewish people had to endure for thousands of years and still endure today in order to survive.
A true leader must act from a foundation of humility and perseverance; understanding the welfare of Israel and the Jewish people should be the foremost reason before any action is taken. One must lead by action and example and not by rhetoric.
A faithful Jewish leader must be one who will not compromise Jewish values.
YJ Draiman
A true leader of Israel has to have fortitude and determination to overcome internal and external obstacles!
He must stand relentlessly behind the defenders and supporters of Israel.
Freedom of Speech Limitations
ReplyDeleteIf you are in a theater and you yell fire, when there is no fire and cause injuries to the audience at large by your yelling fire you have forfeited you right to free speech.
The same applies to anyone who promotes violence, incites the public to violence and sedition, Uses his freedom of speech to promote treason against the State.
Israel has bent over backward in protecting the right to free speech.
It is time for Israel to go on the offensive and utilize its laws to prosecute those who abuse their right to free speech, that right has its limitations.
We must hold Arab-Palestinians accountable for teaching hate, honoring terrorist and celebrating terror attacks.
Any capitulation or concessions to Arab-Palestinians demands breeds greater outrageous demands and more violence.
Israel’s P.M. should tell them – if you are not with us to protect our people at all costs – you are against us and you are contributing to the continued violence.
YJ Draiman
Peace and coexistence between Israel and its Arab neighbors would be a dream come true!
ReplyDeleteI do not think that anyone could comprehend what a true peace and coexistence would bring to Israel and the Middle East.
As long as the Arab-Palestinians incite the masses to terrorize and commit violence against Israel and each other, peace and coexistence will stay a dream.
The Arab Palestinians must start by educating their children and the masses that violence begets violence and that the only way to improve their lives is to pursue peace and coexistence.
Stop celebrating and rewarding terrorists and those who commit violence and destruction. If the Arab-Palestinians truly want peace they must practice it. The leaders the Imams and anyone who has influence on the masses.
Both sides will have to be careful not to let the extremists jeopardize this approach and direction. There will always be someone who will try to sabotage any conciliatory coexistence. Both sides will have to set up a joint working group to address safety and security. Plan and implement the economic future of all the people. It is not going to be easy after a century of hostilities, but if there is a will there is a way and it can be done.
Both sides must learn to respect each other. It will help greatly in bridging the differences and bringing about the tranquility that is so greatly desired.
It must start by taking small steps and confidence building between the Israelis and the Arab-Palestinians. As the confidence building steps are accomplished, the flow of cooperation will increase, the animosity will decrease and the friendship and cooperation will increase. These will bring an economic prosperity and monumental surge in the standard of living.
Funds and resources that were used for advancing the conflict will be diverted to the economy and the advancement in the quality of life for all the inhabitants in the region.
A true peace will bring a tremendous economic prosperity to the region, which all the people in the region will benefit from.
YJ Draiman
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now.
Israel must stay strong, united and determined to preserve and maintain an unparalleled security, a robust economy that is able to withstand violence and political pressure, it is imperative that Israelis be united and stay united, under one overwhelming strong unity government that will drive the country's security and safety up and the price of basic staples down. Develop its energy sources to be energy independent. Israel must be a country that will be able to stand up to anti-Israel propaganda, to the rising anti-Semitism, to the political pressure and to the constant de-legitimization and demonization of the nation state of the Jewish people, Israel. Remember, a unified and strong Israel means a strong and undeterred entire Jewish nation with ability to support the country and its citizens.
ReplyDeleteI advocate that the citizens of Israel be smart, elect smart, demand, with resolve, from your elected politicians to deliver on their promises and to keep the country strong and safe; do not let it be weakened under the new Israel's 5th column, the Left, whether it is the High Court, and other entities, the politicians of all sort and even worse, the media and the citizens who delude themselves and refuse to face reality, facts and truth, based on past history.
Fight for the soul of our country. Fight for our heritage and our Jewish cause, which is for the Jews a nationalist, political and culture movement that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the ancestral territory defined as the historic Land of Israel.
We have a country to sustain and protect from external and internal enemies. We have a country to protect from the barrages of rockets and missiles that can reach every corner of the country. We have to protect our citizens from suicide bombers, terror and violence. We need a country that can stand up, with dignity and pride, to world pressure. It is imperative to be united at time of war. But Israel must also be united to sustain achieve its continued survival, peace and prosperity.
Those calling for a two-state solution conveniently ignore that Hamas and other Arab Palestinian groups are committed to the annihilation of Israel and of the Jews who live there. For Arab Palestinians, the so-called two-state solution is simply a political ploy to bring them closer to the explicit goal of exterminating all Jews in the region. When Israel’s enemies recognize her as a state with the right to exist, then peace will be possible. Until then there is nothing to talk about.
ReplyDeleteThe tragedy of the Palestinian people is a tragedy of their own making.
What Is A True Jewish Leader?
ReplyDeleteThe Torah (The Jewish Bible) clearly expresses the true character traits necessary for leaders of the nation. It is not great rhetorical skills that will help a person succeed in leading "The Nation of Israel". The gift of self-expression is not a necessary component in the skill set of national leaders.
A Jewish leader is one who is meant to represent the nation as a whole, externally and internally, expressive ability is no more than an impressive external trait that occasionally has the power to cover for an internal void. That is not what sets apart the leader of the Jewish nation. A Jewish leader must have the ability to withstand external pressures and protect his people and the Jewish nation at all times.
The Jewish nation that appeared on the stage of history thousands of years ago did not begin as a nation with an impressive external appearance. On the contrary, for long periods, the Jewish people lacked military and political abilities. However, since its inception, the Jewish nation has represented a huge world of moral, ethical and just values, values which the entire world learned, some more and some less, and spread to cultures everywhere throughout the world .
A leader of the Jewish nation is not meant to stand out as having an impressive external appearance, but rather a significant internal appearance that also expresses the special characteristics of Jewish culture and humility. Moshe (Moses who lead the Jewish people out of Egypt, after hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. Moses who lead the Jewish people during their Exodus from Egypt, were attacked by various nations. Hence, the Jewish people had to learn how to defend themselves. Thus with the help of the almighty they were victorious), the Jewish nation’s first leader Moses, was “heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue,” and with this he signaled for us the correct path and the worthy considerations which should guide us as we choose our nation’s leadership.
A true leader of Israel has to lead from a platform of absolute faith. He cannot be just a politician. He has to embrace the history of the Jewish people and Israel. A leader of the Jewish nation has to understand what the Jewish people had to endure for thousands of years and still endure today in order to survive.
A true leader must act from a foundation of humility and perseverance; understanding the welfare of Israel and the Jewish people should be the foremost reason before any action is taken. One must lead by action and example and not by rhetoric.
A faithful Jewish leader must be one who will not compromise Jewish values.
YJ Draiman
A true leader of Israel has to have fortitude and determination to overcome internal and external obstacles!
He must stand relentlessly behind the defenders and supporters of Israel.
Wake-up world to the real Muslim mission.
ReplyDeleteIsrael has no choice but to continue to fight for its survival with a unified people and a unified nation.
I have long said, this is not about land, but extermination of a nation, religion and culture which is not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing, but not the people. Would the Arabs still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and emphatic, it saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I have read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, many non-biased writings.
I have come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. The Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscated their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. (which is 5 times the size of Israel) and valued in the trillions of dollars.
Those in power in the Arab-Palestinian leadership have rejected again and again all and any attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. They continue to teach their children to hate and violence.
Don't start with who was there first, even-though in actuality there has never been an Arab-Palestinian Nation, but there has been a Jewish Nation there for the past 4,000 years, although sometimes occupied. Israel has won the land in a defensive war, possession is nine tenths of the law. Israel is the rightful successor, having won and liberated it in war, numerous times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one Arab culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking.
I hope Israel does not concede to any of the Arab demands, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves more vulnerable and endanger the safety and security of its citizens
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The Muslim mission in the world is not only Israel but the rest of the infidel non-believers. Might I remind you, on 911, there was Arab terrorists who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.
The Muslims have killed over 50 million people since its inception 1500 years ago, and they will continue to kill anyone who they consider is an infidel. They have colonized the Middle East over the years. Slowly but surely they are taking over Europe, and if we are not careful they will take over the United States and other countries.
The Jews were not given the land in Israel and the Jewish part of the land was purchased from the rich Arab landowners at a premium price. During testimony in front of the British Peel Commission January 12, 1937 The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater who killed over 12,000 Jews in Bosnia on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed. Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners. During the war of Independence in 1948. Then 5 nations waged war on them and got their skull handed to them. At that point, they earned it. Countries have tried to knock them off the hill, but Israel keeps winning, so, yeah, it's their land now. Deal with it. And sweetie, Hamas is a terrorist group. Innocent people are being slaughtered by Hamas...and then they hide behind innocent people as Israel fires back. It's surprising to see an American eat up Hamas's propaganda so easily. You're a liberal arts major aren't you?
ReplyDeleteI would be hard pressed to identify any (non third world, anyway) country today that exists without any change in "ownership." To me, the Native American Indians were in North America first. The Europeans "conquered" the country, built it up, more people came, land was partitioned back to the American Indians (reservations), where they (reluctantly, I'm sure) exist. Now, what would happen if the Native Americans decided that they wanted more of their homeland and started lobbing missiles into Oklahoma City? Do you think the US Government would just sit by?
The bottom line is that all these people in the Middle East can make claims and justify their land rights, depending on a point in time in history. Right now, there is Israel and there are surrounding Arab nations. The Arabs (and their derivatives) need to stop trying to destroy Israel and other terrorist acts and try and co-exist. It is pretty clear to most even-minded people that Israel has been living under constant threats and, given the fact that they haven't nuked their enemies, has been showing considerable restraint. The Palestinians (which isn't even a real "nation" by the way, if one reads history) have some land to call their own and it is called Jordan and so does Israel, which took care of the million Jewish people expelled from Arab countries, The Arabs countries confiscated their land, which is 4 times the size of Israel and are holding assets totaling over 15 trillion dollars. Amen.
I find it comical that people you are likening Israel's existence to that of a theoretical invasion of Indian reservations (Palestine) by the US Marines (Israel) ... as:
1) 30 odd percent of the Israeli population are Muslims and Christians, who live in an environment far more free than any Islamic equivalent...most of which either have or will fight for and defend their country in the IDF.
2)Islam really only came to be in the 6-7th century, prior to which most of the region were either Jewish or Christian.. The Quran uses most of the Old testament as its base, all of which, came to be in the time of Mohammed who was simply a descendant of Ishmael (Abraham's son)...so with this in mind, how are the Jews, equivalent to Indonesians invading Australia? ... In reality they are equivalent to Australian Aboriginals...Every Muslim that exists today is a descendant of something else... What's more, structures like the Western Wall and the Old city of Jerusalem predate Christ, whilst buildings sacred to Islam like The Dome of the Rock (built 691 AD...) came long after.
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to Gaza however, In 2005 Israel pulled completely out of Gaza, in 2006 when the Palestinian Arabs were able to vote in a legislative election for the first time in ten years, they chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that drew its popularity from its unwillingness to even entertain the thought of peace with the Jewish State.
The 2006 election showed once again that the root cause of terrorism lay in a culture where political popularity came from killing Jews, not from bringing peace.
Hamas’ ability to carry out more spectacular terrorist attacks, employing motivated Islamist suicide bombers, gave it the inside track in the election. Where Western political parties might compete for popularity by offering voters peace and prosperity, Palestinian factions competed over who could kill more Jews. And Hamas won based on its killing sprees and its unwillingness to water down its platform of destroying Israel. If occupation were the issue, then the less territory Israel “occupied”, the more peace there would be. But the real world results of the peace experiment have led to the exact opposite outcome.
Israel’s withdrawals from Gaza and Lebanon did not lead to peace, they led to greater instability as Hamas and Hezbollah exploited the power vacuum to take over Gaza and Lebanon, and used that new-found power to escalate the conflict with Israel. The less territory Israel has occupied, the more violence there has been directed against her. The goal of the terrorists has never been an Israeli withdrawal and a separate peace, but the perpetuation of the conflict, and the elimination of the Jewish state.
Half a year after Israel withdrew from Gaza, Hamas swept the Palestinian legislative elections. Another half a year after that, a Hamas raid netted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit as a hostage. Barely a year after Israel had withdrawn from Gaza; Hamas had found a way to bring Israeli soldiers back into Gaza for a renewal of the conflict.
Cut off from attacking Israel directly by a blockade, Hamas deepened its investment in long-range weapons systems, even while complaining that its people were going hungry. After its takeover of Gaza, it significantly improved its weapons capabilities. In 2004, it had achieved its first Kassam fatality killing a 4-year-old boy on his way to a Sderot nursery school, but by 2006, its capabilities had so dramatically improved that it was able to launch its first Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon, the third largest city in Israel’s south with a population of over 100,000.
As the volume and range of Hamas’ rockets increased, Israel was forced to take action. In 2004, Israel suffered 281 rocket attacks. By 2006, that number had increased to over 1,700. In 2008, the number of rocket and mortar attacks approached 4,000 triggering Operation Cast Lead, also known as the Gaza War.
Operation Cast Lead destroyed enough of Hamas’ stockpiles and capabilities to reduce rocket attacks down to the 2004 and 2005 levels, but another dramatic increase in attacks in 2012, with over 2,000 rockets fired into Israel, combined with the smuggling of Fajr 5 rockets capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, forced Israel to carry out a series of strikes against Hamas in Operation Pillar of Defense.
ReplyDeleteBoth times Israel did not choose a conflict of opportunity, but reacted to a disturbing level of Hamas violence, and had nothing to gain from the conflict except for a temporary reduction of violence.
The same is the case of Operation Protective Edge which Hamas launched over 15,000 rockets at Israel - No Nation in history would tolerate such attacks without a strong response to defend its population from death and destruction. Any other nation, the response would have been much worse and the destruction would of been almost total. Putin would of wiped Gaza of the map, in less than 72 hours and nobody could challenge him.
"We have to undue the decades of nonsense that the peace industry has fermented, which led us to the position where the world thinks we the Jews are occupiers in our own land.
If something is false and it is repeated enough times it becomes sort of common wisdom.
We have to undo that."
After the initial partition of Palestine approved by the Council of the League of Nations in 1922. According to Professor Blum: “The Palestinian Arabs have long enjoyed self-determination in their own state – the Palestinian Arab State of Jordan”. (Worth mentioning here, in a letter apparently written on 17 January 1921 to Churchill’s Private Secretary, Col. T.E. Lawrence (“of Arabia”) had reported that, in return for Arab sovereignty in Iraq, Trans-Jordan and Syria, King Hussein’s eldest son, Emir Feisal—a man said by Lawrence to be known for keeping his word—had “agreed to abandon all claims of his father to Palestine”.) After this partition, Churchill—British Colonial Secretary at the time— immediately reaffirmed the commitment of Great Britain to give effect to the policies of the Balfour Declaration in all the other parts of the territory covered by the Mandate for Palestine west of the Jordan River.
ReplyDeleteThis pledge included the area of Jerusalem and its Old City. In Churchill’s own words: “It is manifestly right that the Jews who are scattered all over the world should have a national center and a national home where some of them may be reunited. And where else could that be but in the land of Palestine, with which for more than three thousand years they have been intimately and profoundly associated?” Thus, in a word, the primary foundations in international law for the “legal” claim based on “historic rights” or “historic title” of the Jewish people in respect of Palestine are the San Remo decisions of April 1920 which terms have not been abrogated and are are valid today, the Mandate for Palestine of July 1922, approved by the Council of the League of Nations and bearing the signatures of those same Principal Allied Powers but rendering it an international treaty binding on all Member States, and the Covenant of the League of Nations itself (Art. 22). It is important to state that the Allied Powers also set-up 21 Arab states after WWI of which no one is questioning its boundaries, therefore the boundaries of Israel as set-up according to the San Remo Treaty of 1920 should not be questioned either. In addition, there is no mention that the Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscating their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. valued at today's market in the trillions of dollars. It seems that the Arabs and the International community keeps taking areas of land from the Jewish state again and again, until there is nothing left. That is exactly what the Arab Palestinians want. I am confident that Israel will continue to flourish contrary to the biased Media, the bigoted anti-Semetic European community (who are dependent on Arab oil) and any other hostiles to Israel'd existence.
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now
What Is A True Jewish Leader? r1
ReplyDeleteThe Torah (The Old Testament - Jewish Bible) clearly expresses the true character traits necessary for leaders of the nation. It is not great rhetorical skills that helps a person succeed in leading "The Nation of Israel". The gift of self-expression is not a necessary component in the skill set of national leaders.
A Jewish leader is one who is meant to represent the nation as a whole, externally and internally. Expressive ability is no more than an impressive external trait that occasionally has the power to cover an internal void. That is not what sets apart the leader of the Jewish nation. A Jewish leader must have the ability to withstand external pressures and protect his people and the Jewish nation at all times.
The Jewish nation that appeared on the stage of history thousands of years ago did not begin as a nation with an impressive external appearance. On the contrary for long periods the Jewish people lacked military and political capabilities. However, since its inception, the Jewish nation has represented a huge world of moral, ethical and just values. Values which the entire world learned, some more and some less, and spread to cultures everywhere throughout the world .
A leader of the Jewish nation is not meant to stand out as having an impressive external appearance but, rather, a significant internal appearance that also expresses the special characteristics of Jewish culture and humility. Moses (Moshe in Hebrew) was “heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue” yet he led the Jewish people out of Egypt following hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. Moses was the one who led the Jewish people during their exodus from Egypt and were attacked by various nations. Hence, the Jewish people had to learn how to defend themselves and thus, with the help of the almighty were victorious. The Jewish nation’s first leader Moses signaled to us by example with his presence and leadership, the correct path and the worthy considerations which should guide us as we choose our nation’s leadership.
A true leader of Israel has to lead from a platform of absolute faith. He cannot be a politician, only. He has to embrace the history of the Jewish people and Israel. A leader of the Jewish nation has to understand what the Jewish people had to endure for thousands of years and still endure today to survive.
A true leader must act from a foundation of humility and perseverance. Understanding the welfare of Israel and the Jewish people should be the foremost reason before any action is taken. The leader must lead by action and example -- not by rhetoric.
A faithful Jewish leader must be one who will not compromise Jewish values.
A true leader has to have a vision, fortitude and determination to overcome internal and external obstacles!
A true leader must stand relentlessly behind the defenders and supporters of Israel.
YJ Draiman
After the initial partition of Palestine approved by the Council of the League of Nations in 1922. According to Professor Blum: “The Palestinian Arabs have long enjoyed self-determination in their own state – the Palestinian Arab State of Jordan”. (Worth mentioning here, in a letter apparently written on 17 January 1921 to Churchill’s Private Secretary, Col. T.E. Lawrence (“of Arabia”) had reported that, in return for Arab sovereignty in Iraq, Trans-Jordan and Syria, King Hussein’s eldest son, Emir Feisal—a man said by Lawrence to be known for keeping his word—had “agreed to abandon all claims of his father to Palestine”.) After this partition, Churchill—British Colonial Secretary at the time— immediately reaffirmed the commitment of Great Britain to give effect to the policies of the Balfour Declaration in all the other parts of the territory covered by the Mandate for Palestine west of the Jordan River.
ReplyDeleteThis pledge included the area of Jerusalem and its Old City. In Churchill’s own words: “It is manifestly right that the Jews who are scattered all over the world should have a national center and a national home where some of them may be reunited. And where else could that be but in the land of Palestine, with which for more than three thousand years they have been intimately and profoundly associated?” Thus, in a word, the primary foundations in international law for the “legal” claim based on “historic rights” or “historic title” of the Jewish people in respect of Palestine are the San Remo decisions of April 1920 which terms have not been abrogated and are are valid today, the Mandate for Palestine of July 1922, approved by the Council of the League of Nations and bearing the signatures of those same Principal Allied Powers but rendering it an international treaty binding on all Member States, and the Covenant of the League of Nations itself (Art. 22). It is important to state that the Allied Powers also set-up 21 Arab states after WWI of which no one is questioning its boundaries, therefore the boundaries of Israel as set-up according to the San Remo Treaty of 1920 should not be questioned either. In addition, there is no mention that the Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscating their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. valued at today's market in the trillions of dollars. It seems that the Arabs and the International community keeps taking areas of land from the Jewish state again and again, until there is nothing left. That is exactly what the Arab Palestinians want. I am confident that Israel will continue to flourish contrary to the biased Media, the bigoted anti-Semetic European community (who are dependent on Arab oil) and any other hostiles to Israel'd existence.
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now
Operation Cast Lead destroyed enough of Hamas’ stockpiles and capabilities to reduce rocket attacks down to the 2004 and 2005 levels, but another dramatic increase in attacks in 2012, with over 2,000 rockets fired into Israel, combined with the smuggling of Fajr 5 rockets capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, forced Israel to carry out a series of strikes against Hamas in Operation Pillar of Defense.
ReplyDeleteBoth times Israel did not choose a conflict of opportunity, but reacted to a disturbing level of Hamas violence, and had nothing to gain from the conflict except for a temporary reduction of violence.
The same is the case of Operation Protective Edge which Hamas launched over 15,000 rockets at Israel - No Nation in history would tolerate such attacks without a strong response to defend its population from death and destruction. Any other nation, the response would have been much worse and the destruction would of been almost total. Putin would of wiped Gaza of the map, in less than 72 hours and nobody could challenge him.
"We have to undue the decades of nonsense that the peace industry has fermented, which led us to the position where the world thinks we the Jews are occupiers in our own land.
If something is false and it is repeated enough times it becomes sort of common wisdom.
We have to undo that."
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to Gaza however, In 2005 Israel pulled completely out of Gaza, in 2006 when the Palestinian Arabs were able to vote in a legislative election for the first time in ten years, they chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that drew its popularity from its unwillingness to even entertain the thought of peace with the Jewish State.
The 2006 election showed once again that the root cause of terrorism lay in a culture where political popularity came from killing Jews, not from bringing peace.
Hamas’ ability to carry out more spectacular terrorist attacks, employing motivated Islamist suicide bombers, gave it the inside track in the election. Where Western political parties might compete for popularity by offering voters peace and prosperity, Palestinian factions competed over who could kill more Jews. And Hamas won based on its killing sprees and its unwillingness to water down its platform of destroying Israel. If occupation were the issue, then the less territory Israel “occupied”, the more peace there would be. But the real world results of the peace experiment have led to the exact opposite outcome.
Israel’s withdrawals from Gaza and Lebanon did not lead to peace, they led to greater instability as Hamas and Hezbollah exploited the power vacuum to take over Gaza and Lebanon, and used that new-found power to escalate the conflict with Israel. The less territory Israel has occupied, the more violence there has been directed against her. The goal of the terrorists has never been an Israeli withdrawal and a separate peace, but the perpetuation of the conflict, and the elimination of the Jewish state.
Half a year after Israel withdrew from Gaza, Hamas swept the Palestinian legislative elections. Another half a year after that, a Hamas raid netted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit as a hostage. Barely a year after Israel had withdrawn from Gaza; Hamas had found a way to bring Israeli soldiers back into Gaza for a renewal of the conflict.
Cut off from attacking Israel directly by a blockade, Hamas deepened its investment in long-range weapons systems, even while complaining that its people were going hungry. After its takeover of Gaza, it significantly improved its weapons capabilities. In 2004, it had achieved its first Kassam fatality killing a 4-year-old boy on his way to a Sderot nursery school, but by 2006, its capabilities had so dramatically improved that it was able to launch its first Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon, the third largest city in Israel’s south with a population of over 100,000.
As the volume and range of Hamas’ rockets increased, Israel was forced to take action. In 2004, Israel suffered 281 rocket attacks. By 2006, that number had increased to over 1,700. In 2008, the number of rocket and mortar attacks approached 4,000 triggering Operation Cast Lead, also known as the Gaza War.
The Jews were not given the land in Israel and the Jewish part of the land was purchased from the rich Arab landowners at a premium price. During testimony in front of the British Peel Commission January 12, 1937 The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater who killed over 12,000 Jews in Bosnia on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed. Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners. During the war of Independence in 1948. Then 5 nations waged war on them and got their skull handed to them. At that point, they earned it. Countries have tried to knock them off the hill, but Israel keeps winning, so, yeah, it's their land now. Deal with it. And sweetie, Hamas is a terrorist group. Innocent people are being slaughtered by Hamas...and then they hide behind innocent people as Israel fires back. It's surprising to see an American eat up Hamas's propaganda so easily. You're a liberal arts major aren't you?
ReplyDeleteI would be hard pressed to identify any (non third world, anyway) country today that exists without any change in "ownership." To me, the Native American Indians were in North America first. The Europeans "conquered" the country, built it up, more people came, land was partitioned back to the American Indians (reservations), where they (reluctantly, I'm sure) exist. Now, what would happen if the Native Americans decided that they wanted more of their homeland and started lobbing missiles into Oklahoma City? Do you think the US Government would just sit by?
The bottom line is that all these people in the Middle East can make claims and justify their land rights, depending on a point in time in history. Right now, there is Israel and there are surrounding Arab nations. The Arabs (and their derivatives) need to stop trying to destroy Israel and other terrorist acts and try and co-exist. It is pretty clear to most even-minded people that Israel has been living under constant threats and, given the fact that they haven't nuked their enemies, has been showing considerable restraint. The Palestinians (which isn't even a real "nation" by the way, if one reads history) have some land to call their own and it is called Jordan and so does Israel, which took care of the million Jewish people expelled from Arab countries, The Arabs countries confiscated their land, which is 4 times the size of Israel and are holding assets totaling over 15 trillion dollars. Amen.
I find it comical that people you are likening Israel's existence to that of a theoretical invasion of Indian reservations (Palestine) by the US Marines (Israel) ... as:
1) 30 odd percent of the Israeli population are Muslims and Christians, who live in an environment far more free than any Islamic equivalent...most of which either have or will fight for and defend their country in the IDF.
2)Islam really only came to be in the 6-7th century, prior to which most of the region were either Jewish or Christian.. The Quran uses most of the Old testament as its base, all of which, came to be in the time of Mohammed who was simply a descendant of Ishmael (Abraham's son)...so with this in mind, how are the Jews, equivalent to Indonesians invading Australia? ... In reality they are equivalent to Australian Aboriginals...Every Muslim that exists today is a descendant of something else... What's more, structures like the Western Wall and the Old city of Jerusalem predate Christ, whilst buildings sacred to Islam like The Dome of the Rock (built 691 AD...) came long after.
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
Wake-up world to the real Muslim mission.
ReplyDeleteIsrael has no choice but to continue to fight for its survival with a unified people and a unified nation.
I have long said, this is not about land, but extermination of a nation, religion and culture which is not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing, but not the people. Would the Arabs still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and emphatic, it saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I have read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, many non-biased writings.
I have come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. The Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscated their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. (which is 5 times the size of Israel) and valued in the trillions of dollars.
Those in power in the Arab-Palestinian leadership have rejected again and again all and any attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. They continue to teach their children to hate and violence.
Don't start with who was there first, even-though in actuality there has never been an Arab-Palestinian Nation, but there has been a Jewish Nation there for the past 4,000 years, although sometimes occupied. Israel has won the land in a defensive war, possession is nine tenths of the law. Israel is the rightful successor, having won and liberated it in war, numerous times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one Arab culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking.
I hope Israel does not concede to any of the Arab demands, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves more vulnerable and endanger the safety and security of its citizens
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The Muslim mission in the world is not only Israel but the rest of the infidel non-believers. Might I remind you, on 911, there was Arab terrorists who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.
The Muslims have killed over 50 million people since its inception 1500 years ago, and they will continue to kill anyone who they consider is an infidel. They have colonized the Middle East over the years. Slowly but surely they are taking over Europe, and if we are not careful they will take over the United States and other countries.
What Is A True Jewish Leader?
ReplyDeleteThe Torah (The Jewish Bible) clearly expresses the true character traits necessary for leaders of the nation. It is not great rhetorical skills that will help a person succeed in leading "The Nation of Israel". The gift of self-expression is not a necessary component in the skill set of national leaders.
A Jewish leader is one who is meant to represent the nation as a whole, externally and internally, expressive ability is no more than an impressive external trait that occasionally has the power to cover for an internal void. That is not what sets apart the leader of the Jewish nation. A Jewish leader must have the ability to withstand external pressures and protect his people and the Jewish nation at all times.
The Jewish nation that appeared on the stage of history thousands of years ago did not begin as a nation with an impressive external appearance. On the contrary, for long periods, the Jewish people lacked military and political abilities. However, since its inception, the Jewish nation has represented a huge world of moral, ethical and just values, values which the entire world learned, some more and some less, and spread to cultures everywhere throughout the world .
A leader of the Jewish nation is not meant to stand out as having an impressive external appearance, but rather a significant internal appearance that also expresses the special characteristics of Jewish culture and humility. Moshe (Moses who lead the Jewish people out of Egypt, after hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. Moses who lead the Jewish people during their Exodus from Egypt, were attacked by various nations. Hence, the Jewish people had to learn how to defend themselves. Thus with the help of the almighty they were victorious), the Jewish nation’s first leader Moses, was “heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue,” and with this he signaled for us the correct path and the worthy considerations which should guide us as we choose our nation’s leadership.
A true leader of Israel has to lead from a platform of absolute faith. He cannot be just a politician. He has to embrace the history of the Jewish people and Israel. A leader of the Jewish nation has to understand what the Jewish people had to endure for thousands of years and still endure today in order to survive.
A true leader must act from a foundation of humility and perseverance; understanding the welfare of Israel and the Jewish people should be the foremost reason before any action is taken. One must lead by action and example and not by rhetoric.
A faithful Jewish leader must be one who will not compromise Jewish values.
YJ Draiman
A true leader of Israel has to have fortitude and determination to overcome internal and external obstacles!
He must stand relentlessly behind the defenders and supporters of Israel.
It takes more guts (courage) to make peace than to make war
ReplyDeleteMaking peace is harder than making war.
Can humanity overcome the urge to make war and pursue peace
Tolerance and peace is a two way street.
If you want peace and economic prosperity, both sides, show your resolve by taking bold actions, showing your determination to the benefit of all the people. You can accomplish more with honey than with vinegar.
We must pursue peace with passionate determination and vigor but we must have all parties desire for true peace.
A true and lasting peace in Israel and the Middle East will establish an economic prosperity of which the world has never experienced and all the people in the region will benefit from a true peace. Do not waste your time and money in promoting war and hostility. The people in power must utilize the resources and manpower to the economic advancement of all the people, this will promote tranquility in a region that has known strife for centuries. The leaders have to utilize funding to enhance education and promote innovation.
It is neither a culture of confrontation nor a culture of conflict which builds harmony within and between peoples, but rather a culture of encounter and a culture of dialogue; this is the only way to peace. We should require each party in this conflict to listen to the voice of their own conscience, not to close themselves in solely on their own interests, but rather to look at each other as brothers and decisively and courageously to follow the path of encounter and negotiation, and so overcome blind conflict.
The “greatest contribution to a sound and continuing peace in the Middle East would result from the development of trade and other economic relationships between Israel and the Arab countries. When nations are making progress and peoples’ opportunities for rising living standards are favorable, it is more likely that they will concern themselves with constructive achievements rather than with hostility and war.”
“Israel has the talent, technology and skills and by now the experience of dealing with the environment and the resources in the Middle East which are readily transferable. Therefore, it is entirely realistic to expect prompt and major developments in the Arab countries under peaceful and normal relations in that region,” “Israel’s economic growth is reasonably assured under any circumstances but only if she could divert the hundreds of millions of dollars now devoted to defense efforts could she not only speed her own development but also play a positive role in helping the economic expansion of the entire region.”
YJ Draiman
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Those calling for a two-state solution conveniently ignore that Hamas and other Arab Palestinian groups are committed to the annihilation of Israel and of the Jews who live there. For Arab Palestinians, the so-called two-state solution is simply a political ploy to bring them closer to the explicit goal of exterminating all Jews in the region. When Israel’s enemies recognize her as a state with the right to exist, then peace will be possible. Until then there is nothing to talk about.
ReplyDeleteThe tragedy of the Palestinian people is a tragedy of their own making.
Israel must stay strong, united and determined to preserve and maintain an unparalleled security, a robust economy that is able to withstand violence and political pressure, it is imperative that Israelis be united and stay united, under one overwhelming strong unity government that will drive the country's security and safety up and the price of basic staples down. Develop its energy sources to be energy independent. Israel must be a country that will be able to stand up to anti-Israel propaganda, to the rising anti-Semitism, to the political pressure and to the constant de-legitimization and demonization of the nation state of the Jewish people, Israel. Remember, a unified and strong Israel means a strong and undeterred entire Jewish nation with ability to support the country and its citizens.
ReplyDeleteI advocate that the citizens of Israel be smart, elect smart, demand, with resolve, from your elected politicians to deliver on their promises and to keep the country strong and safe; do not let it be weakened under the new Israel's 5th column, the Left, whether it is the High Court, and other entities, the politicians of all sort and even worse, the media and the citizens who delude themselves and refuse to face reality, facts and truth, based on past history.
Fight for the soul of our country. Fight for our heritage and our Jewish cause, which is for the Jews a nationalist, political and culture movement that supports the reestablishment of a Jewish homeland in the ancestral territory defined as the historic Land of Israel.
We have a country to sustain and protect from external and internal enemies. We have a country to protect from the barrages of rockets and missiles that can reach every corner of the country. We have to protect our citizens from suicide bombers, terror and violence. We need a country that can stand up, with dignity and pride, to world pressure. It is imperative to be united at time of war. But Israel must also be united to sustain achieve its continued survival, peace and prosperity.
Peace and coexistence between Israel and its Arab neighbors would be a dream come true!
ReplyDeleteI do not think that anyone could comprehend what a true peace and coexistence would bring to Israel and the Middle East.
As long as the Arab-Palestinians incite the masses to terrorize and commit violence against Israel and each other, peace and coexistence will stay a dream.
The Arab Palestinians must start by educating their children and the masses that violence begets violence and that the only way to improve their lives is to pursue peace and coexistence.
Stop celebrating and rewarding terrorists and those who commit violence and destruction. If the Arab-Palestinians truly want peace they must practice it. The leaders the Imams and anyone who has influence on the masses.
Both sides will have to be careful not to let the extremists jeopardize this approach and direction. There will always be someone who will try to sabotage any conciliatory coexistence. Both sides will have to set up a joint working group to address safety and security. Plan and implement the economic future of all the people. It is not going to be easy after a century of hostilities, but if there is a will there is a way and it can be done.
Both sides must learn to respect each other. It will help greatly in bridging the differences and bringing about the tranquility that is so greatly desired.
It must start by taking small steps and confidence building between the Israelis and the Arab-Palestinians. As the confidence building steps are accomplished, the flow of cooperation will increase, the animosity will decrease and the friendship and cooperation will increase. These will bring an economic prosperity and monumental surge in the standard of living.
Funds and resources that were used for advancing the conflict will be diverted to the economy and the advancement in the quality of life for all the inhabitants in the region.
A true peace will bring a tremendous economic prosperity to the region, which all the people in the region will benefit from.
YJ Draiman
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now.
Freedom of Speech Limitations
ReplyDeleteIf you are in a theater and you yell fire, when there is no fire and cause injuries to the audience at large by your yelling fire you have forfeited you right to free speech.
The same applies to anyone who promotes violence, incites the public to violence and sedition, Uses his freedom of speech to promote treason against the State.
Israel has bent over backward in protecting the right to free speech.
It is time for Israel to go on the offensive and utilize its laws to prosecute those who abuse their right to free speech, that right has its limitations.
We must hold Arab-Palestinians accountable for teaching hate, honoring terrorist and celebrating terror attacks.
Any capitulation or concessions to Arab-Palestinians demands breeds greater outrageous demands and more violence.
Israel’s P.M. should tell them – if you are not with us to protect our people at all costs – you are against us and you are contributing to the continued violence.
YJ Draiman
What Is A True Jewish Leader?
ReplyDeleteThe Torah (The Jewish Bible) clearly expresses the true character traits necessary for leaders of the nation. It is not great rhetorical skills that will help a person succeed in leading "The Nation of Israel". The gift of self-expression is not a necessary component in the skill set of national leaders.
A Jewish leader is one who is meant to represent the nation as a whole, externally and internally, expressive ability is no more than an impressive external trait that occasionally has the power to cover for an internal void. That is not what sets apart the leader of the Jewish nation. A Jewish leader must have the ability to withstand external pressures and protect his people and the Jewish nation at all times.
The Jewish nation that appeared on the stage of history thousands of years ago did not begin as a nation with an impressive external appearance. On the contrary, for long periods, the Jewish people lacked military and political abilities. However, since its inception, the Jewish nation has represented a huge world of moral, ethical and just values, values which the entire world learned, some more and some less, and spread to cultures everywhere throughout the world .
A leader of the Jewish nation is not meant to stand out as having an impressive external appearance, but rather a significant internal appearance that also expresses the special characteristics of Jewish culture and humility. Moshe (Moses who lead the Jewish people out of Egypt, after hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. Moses who lead the Jewish people during their Exodus from Egypt, were attacked by various nations. Hence, the Jewish people had to learn how to defend themselves. Thus with the help of the almighty they were victorious), the Jewish nation’s first leader Moses, was “heavy of mouth and heavy of tongue,” and with this he signaled for us the correct path and the worthy considerations which should guide us as we choose our nation’s leadership.
A true leader of Israel has to lead from a platform of absolute faith. He cannot be just a politician. He has to embrace the history of the Jewish people and Israel. A leader of the Jewish nation has to understand what the Jewish people had to endure for thousands of years and still endure today in order to survive.
A true leader must act from a foundation of humility and perseverance; understanding the welfare of Israel and the Jewish people should be the foremost reason before any action is taken. One must lead by action and example and not by rhetoric.
A faithful Jewish leader must be one who will not compromise Jewish values.
YJ Draiman
A true leader of Israel has to have fortitude and determination to overcome internal and external obstacles!
He must stand relentlessly behind the defenders and supporters of Israel.
Peace and coexistence between Israel and its Arab neighbors would be a dream come true!
ReplyDeleteI do not think that anyone could comprehend what a true peace and coexistence would bring to Israel and the Middle East.
As long as the Arab-Palestinians incite the masses to terrorize and commit violence against Israel and each other, peace and coexistence will stay a dream.
The Arab Palestinians must start by educating their children and the masses that violence begets violence and that the only way to improve their lives is to pursue peace and coexistence.
Stop celebrating and rewarding terrorists and those who commit violence and destruction. If the Arab-Palestinians truly want peace they must practice it. The leaders the Imams and anyone who has influence on the masses.
Both sides will have to be careful not to let the extremists jeopardize this approach and direction. There will always be someone who will try to sabotage any conciliatory coexistence. Both sides will have to set up a joint working group to address safety and security. Plan and implement the economic future of all the people. It is not going to be easy after a century of hostilities, but if there is a will there is a way and it can be done.
Both sides must learn to respect each other. It will help greatly in bridging the differences and bringing about the tranquility that is so greatly desired.
It must start by taking small steps and confidence building between the Israelis and the Arab-Palestinians. As the confidence building steps are accomplished, the flow of cooperation will increase, the animosity will decrease and the friendship and cooperation will increase. These will bring an economic prosperity and monumental surge in the standard of living.
Funds and resources that were used for advancing the conflict will be diverted to the economy and the advancement in the quality of life for all the inhabitants in the region.
A true peace will bring a tremendous economic prosperity to the region, which all the people in the region will benefit from.
The Jewish people war of survival was not won when Hitler lost. It continues to this day, against enemies with far more effective tools of mass murder at their disposal. Plus we are easy to find now.
"We have to undue the decades of nonsense that the peace industry has fermented, which led us to the position where the world thinks we the Jews are occupiers in our own land.
ReplyDeleteIf something is false and it is repeated enough times it becomes sort of common wisdom.
We have to undo that."
The Jews were not given the land in Israel and the Jewish part of the land was purchased from the rich Arab landowners at a premium price. During testimony in front of the British Peel Commission January 12, 1937 The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater who killed over 12,000 Jews in Bosnia on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed. Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners. During the war of Independence in 1948. Then 5 nations waged war on them and got their skull handed to them. At that point, they earned it. Countries have tried to knock them off the hill, but Israel keeps winning, so, yeah, it's their land now. Deal with it. And sweetie, Hamas is a terrorist group. Innocent people are being slaughtered by Hamas...and then they hide behind innocent people as Israel fires back. It's surprising to see an American eat up Hamas's propaganda so easily. You're a liberal arts major aren't you?
ReplyDeleteI would be hard pressed to identify any (non third world, anyway) country today that exists without any change in "ownership." To me, the Native American Indians were in North America first. The Europeans "conquered" the country, built it up, more people came, land was partitioned back to the American Indians (reservations), where they (reluctantly, I'm sure) exist. Now, what would happen if the Native Americans decided that they wanted more of their homeland and started lobbing missiles into Oklahoma City? Do you think the US Government would just sit by?
If you checkout the Republic of Texas. It was owned by Mexico and Mexico gave out land rights to settlers which the settlers developed it. Those settlers eventually fought Mexico and made it the independent Republic State of Texas. Do you think the United States is obligated to give the State of Texas back to Mexico? Americans say absolutely not. I ask you why should Israel after liberating their own historical ancestral land for over 4,000 years (sometimes occupied by various foreign nations) should be obligated to give additional sections of it to the Arab-Palestinians. They were already cheated out of 80% of their ancestral land, when the British gave it away to the Arabs in 1922. This same scenario applies to many Europeans, Middle Eastern, Africans, Far East and Asian countries. None of them are asked to cede their territories to a new nation for a new State.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is that all these people in the Middle East can make claims and justify their land rights, depending on a point in time in history. Right now, there is Israel and there are surrounding Arab nations. The Arabs (and their derivatives) need to stop trying to destroy Israel and other terrorist acts and try and co-exist. It is pretty clear to most even-minded people that Israel has been living under constant threats and, given the fact that they haven't nuked their enemies, has been showing considerable restraint. The Palestinians (which isn't even a real "nation" by the way, if one reads history) have some land to call their own and it is called Jordan and so does Israel, which took care of the million Jewish people expelled from Arab countries, The Arabs countries confiscated their land, which is 4 times the size of Israel and are holding assets totaling over 15 trillion dollars. Amen.
I find it comical that people you are likening Israel's existence to that of a theoretical invasion of Indian reservations (Palestine) by the US Marines (Israel) ... as:
1) 30 odd percent of the Israeli population are Muslims and Christians, who live in an environment far more free than any Islamic equivalent...most of which either have or will fight for and defend their country in the IDF.
2)Islam really only came to be in the 6-7th century, prior to which most of the region were either Jewish or Christian.. The Quran uses most of the Old testament as its base, all of which, came to be in the time of Mohammed who was simply a descendant of Ishmael (Abraham's son)...so with this in mind, how are the Jews, equivalent to Indonesians invading Australia? ... In reality they are equivalent to Australian Aboriginals...Every Muslim that exists today is a descendant of something else... What's more, structures like the Western Wall and the Old city of Jerusalem predate Christ, whilst buildings sacred to Islam like The Dome of the Rock (built 691 AD...) came long after.
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
In regards to Gaza however, In 2005 Israel pulled completely out of Gaza, in 2006 when the Palestinian Arabs were able to vote in a legislative election for the first time in ten years, they chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that drew its popularity from its unwillingness to even entertain the thought of peace with the Jewish State.
The 2006 election showed once again that the root cause of terrorism lay in a culture where political popularity came from killing Jews, not from bringing peace.
ReplyDeleteHamas’ ability to carry out more spectacular terrorist attacks, employing motivated Islamist suicide bombers, gave it the inside track in the election. Where Western political parties might compete for popularity by offering voters peace and prosperity, Palestinian factions competed over who could kill more Jews. And Hamas won based on its killing sprees and its unwillingness to water down its platform of destroying Israel. If occupation were the issue, then the less territory Israel “occupied”, the more peace there would be. But the real world results of the peace experiment have led to the exact opposite outcome.
Israel’s withdrawals from Gaza and Lebanon did not lead to peace, they led to greater instability as Hamas and Hezbollah exploited the power vacuum to take over Gaza and Lebanon, and used that new-found power to escalate the conflict with Israel. The less territory Israel has occupied, the more violence there has been directed against her. The goal of the terrorists has never been an Israeli withdrawal and a separate peace, but the perpetuation of the conflict, and the elimination of the Jewish state.
Half a year after Israel withdrew from Gaza, Hamas swept the Palestinian legislative elections. Another half a year after that, a Hamas raid netted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit as a hostage. Barely a year after Israel had withdrawn from Gaza; Hamas had found a way to bring Israeli soldiers back into Gaza for a renewal of the conflict.
Cut off from attacking Israel directly by a blockade, Hamas deepened its investment in long-range weapons systems, even while complaining that its people were going hungry. After its takeover of Gaza, it significantly improved its weapons capabilities. In 2004, it had achieved its first Kassam fatality killing a 4-year-old boy on his way to a Sderot nursery school, but by 2006, its capabilities had so dramatically improved that it was able to launch its first Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon, the third largest city in Israel’s south with a population of over 100,000.
As the volume and range of Hamas’ rockets increased, Israel was forced to take action. In 2004, Israel suffered 281 rocket attacks. By 2006, that number had increased to over 1,700. In 2008, the number of rocket and mortar attacks approached 4,000 triggering Operation Cast Lead, also known as the Gaza War.
Operation Cast Lead destroyed enough of Hamas’ stockpiles and capabilities to reduce rocket attacks down to the 2004 and 2005 levels, but another dramatic increase in attacks in 2012, with over 2,000 rockets fired into Israel, combined with the smuggling of Fajr 5 rockets capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, forced Israel to carry out a series of strikes against Hamas in Operation Pillar of Defense.
Both times Israel did not choose a conflict of opportunity, but reacted to a disturbing level of Hamas violence, and had nothing to gain from the conflict except for a temporary reduction of violence.
The same is the case of Operation Protective Edge which Hamas launched over 15,000 rockets at Israel - No Nation in history would tolerate such attacks without a strong response to defend its population from death and destruction. Any other nation, the response would have been much worse and the destruction would of been almost total. Putin would of wiped Gaza of the map, in less than 72 hours and nobody could challenge him.
Wake-up world to the real Muslim mission.
ReplyDeleteIsrael has no choice but to continue to fight for its survival with a unified people and a unified nation.
I have long said, this is not about land, but extermination of a nation, religion and culture which is not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing, but not the people. Would the Arabs still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and emphatic, it saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I have read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, many non-biased writings.
I have come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. The Arab countries have expelled over a million Jewish people, confiscated their assets, businesses, homes and land totaling over 120,000 sq. km. (which is 5 times the size of Israel) and valued in the trillions of dollars.
Those in power in the Arab-Palestinian leadership have rejected again and again all and any attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. They continue to teach their children to hate and violence.
Don't start with who was there first, even-though in actuality there has never been an Arab-Palestinian Nation, but there has been a Jewish Nation there for the past 4,000 years, although sometimes occupied. Israel has won the land in a defensive war, possession is nine tenths of the law. Israel is the rightful successor, having won and liberated it in war, numerous times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one Arab culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking.
I hope Israel does not concede to any of the Arab demands, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves more vulnerable and endanger the safety and security of its citizens
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The Muslim mission in the world is not only Israel but the rest of the infidel non-believers. Might I remind you, on 911, there was Arab terrorists who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.
The Muslims have killed over 50 million people since its inception 1500 years ago, and they will continue to kill anyone who they consider is an infidel. They have colonized the Middle East over the years. Slowly but surely they are taking over Europe, and if we are not careful they will take over the United States and other countries.
The delusional Israel and Arab-Palestinians peace process
ReplyDeleteThe Arab-Palestinians continue to state that the main barrier to peace is the Jewish settlements.
This interpretation has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with reality. People on both sides know this, even if they rarely say so publicly.
For the Palestinian side, the pretense of peacemaking — which every Palestinian leader knows — obtains them money, diplomatic support, popular sympathy, and brings pressure on Israel. Here’s the dirty trick involved: if anyone in Israel raises concern about whether a “peace process” can actually bring peace, or raises concern about how it would be implemented, or raises concern about the documented experience of Palestinian behavior in the past, the response is that “Israel doesn’t want peace.”
The actual arguments and evidence about these problems are censored out of Western mass media and distorted in terms of political stances.
Is the peace process, after 40 years (if you count from its origins) or 20 years (if you count from the time of the “Oslo” agreement), at a dead end? Of course it is. That should be obvious.
The vast majority of Palestinian leaders favor establishing no Palestinian state unless it can continue the work of trying to wipe Israel off the map. They are in no hurry. They do not want to negotiate seriously. And of course, in the case of Hamas, which controls or has the support of about one-half of the Palestinians, this violent and genocidal intention is completely in the open. You can’t negotiate seriously with those who are not — to recall the old PLO slogan — the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. I say this with deep regret, but it is the truth.
On the Israeli side, the pretense is kept up because there is already enough Western hatred or real and potential hostility to what is required for its own self-defense. Israel offered deep concessions and took great risks continually through the 1990's. The judgment on the year 2000, the revealing year of the “peace process,” was that this Palestinian rejection of a two-state solution proved that they didn’t want one.
Now, every few days Abbas comes up with a new trick. The latest one is that he really desperately wants to meet with Netanyahu, but the Israeli prime minister must first meet his latest preconditions — which keep changing.
Every time Israel starts closing in on matching one of his demands, he just changes them.
Kerry gives Israel no credit for that on the peace issue, though it does help U.S.-Israel relations in other ways. For example, Israel will be the first country allowed to deploy the new F-35 warplane, and is getting advanced munitions that could be used to hit Iranian nuclear installations. The only condition on these weapons is — of course — that they not be used to hit Iranian nuclear installations. Still, they might be handy some day. And that is precisely the reason Israelis play along and pretend that Kerry might have a better chance at making peace than he actually does have, which is about a zero chance.
Meanwhile, it is common knowledge that there is a freeze on government permits for construction on settlements, but Abbas doesn’t care.
Speaking of Iran, it contributes to a regional situation that ensures anyone on the Israeli, Palestinian, or other Arab side would have to be crazy to make compromises or concessions for peace right now. At a time when Iran is proclaimed suddenly moderate, and when the genocidally intended Muslim Brotherhood is now a U.S. ally, and when even the Taliban is being declared acceptable, why is it that Israel is being portrayed by many of the same people as intransigent and the source of problems?
Israelis generally — not just those on the left — want peace and a two-state solution. Israelis generally — not just those on the right — do not believe it is possible at present, and they can offer much proof on this point. Moreover, given the region’s rapid movement toward revolutionary Islamism, the atmosphere is totally unwelcoming to any progress toward peace.
ReplyDeleteEven if the Palestinian Authority wanted to have a different policy, it knows that the hegemony of anti-peace Islamists makes such a move suicidal. Just turn on your radio or pick up a Palestinian newspaper and you can find the hatred, incitement, and rejection of Israel’s existence, the indoctrination of young people to carry on the conflict for decades, the celebration of terrorists and especially suicide bombers.
A situation in which anyone who believes in moderation and compromise better keep his mouth shut or face the end of his career — or even death — is not one where a compromise peace can be made and implemented.
This is common knowledge in Israel.
You’d be amazed by the names of left-of-center Israeli political figures who in private make clear their view that there is no two-state solution at present, no political solution — but that they should keep saying the opposite in public to avoid claims that Israel doesn’t really want peace. As an example, one well-known left-wing leader whose name is associated closely with the peace process said privately that Arafat was an SOB who destroyed the peace process.
Another famous dove said that nobody thinks peace is possible, but that we must still pretend otherwise.
P.S.
ReplyDeleteNo Jew has the right to yield the rights of the Jewish People in Israel -
David Ben Gurion
(David Ben-Gurion was the first Prime Minister of Israel and widely hailed as the State's main founder).
“No Jew is entitled to give up the right of establishing [i.e. settling] the Jewish Nation in all of the Land of Israel. No Jewish body has such power. Not even all the Jews alive today [i.e. the entire Jewish People] have the power to cede any part of the country or homeland whatsoever. This is a right vouchsafed or reserved for the Jewish Nation throughout all generations. This right cannot be lost or expropriated under any condition or circumstance. Even if at some particular time, there are those who declare that they are relinquishing this right, they have no power nor competence to deprive coming generations of this right. The Jewish nation is neither bound nor governed by such a waiver or renunciation. Our right to the whole of this country is valid, in force and endures forever. And until the Final Redemption has come, we will not budge from this historic right.”
BEN-GURION’S DECLARATION ON THE EXCLUSIVE AND
INALIENABLE JEWISH RIGHT TO THE WHOLE OF
THE LAND OF ISRAEL:
at the Basle Session of the 20th Zionist Congress at Zurich (1937)
"No country in the world exists today by virtue of its 'right'.
All countries exist today by virtue of their ability to defend themselves against those who seek their destruction."
“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope”
BEN GURION'S LEGACY: DEFIANCE OF US PRESSURE
ReplyDeleteUpon the 40th anniversary of Prime Minister Ben Gurion’s death, Israeli and American policy-makers should study the 1948 legacy of Israel’s Founding Father: Defiance of disproportionate US pressure forged Israel into a national security producer rather than a national security consumer, catapulted the Jewish state into the most productive US strategic ally, enhanced the long-term US-Israel mutually-beneficial ties (following short-term tension), and advanced the national security of both the US and Israel.
On May 29, 1949, toward the end of Israel’s War of Independence, which consumed 6,000 Israeli lives (1% of the population!), the US Ambassador to Israel, James McDonald, delivered a scolding message from President Truman to Prime Minister Ben Gurion. According to McDonald, Truman “interpreted Israel’s attitude [rejecting the land-for-peace principle; annexing West Jerusalem; refusing to absorb Arab refugees; pro-actively soliciting a massive Jewish ingathering] as dangerous to peace and as indicating disregard of the UN General Assembly resolutions of November 29, 1947 [the partition plan] and December 11, 1948 [refugees and internationalization of Jerusalem], reaffirming insistence that territorial compensation should be made [by Israel] for territory taken in excess of November 29 [40% beyond the partition plan!], and that tangible refugee concessions should be made [by Israel] now as essential, preliminary to any prospect for general settlement. The operative part of the note was the implied threat that the US would reconsider its attitude toward Israel (My Mission in Israel 1948-1951, James McDonald, Simon and Schuster, 1951, p 181).”
Ben Gurion’s response – with a population of 650,000 Jews, a $1 billion GDP and a slim military force in 1949, compared with 6.3 million Jews, a $260 billion GDP and one of the world’s finest military forces in 2013 - was resolute: “[Truman’s] note was unrealistic and unjust. It ignored the facts that the partition resolution was no longer applicable since its basic conditions had been destroyed by Arab aggression which the Jews successfully resisted…. To whom should we turn if Israel were again attacked? Would the US send arms or troops? The United States is a powerful country; Israel is a small and a weak one. We can be crushed, but we will not commit suicide (ibid, p. 182).”
“Two UN Security Council resolutions passed [with US support] have implicitly threatened sanctions if Israeli troops were not withdrawn [from the ‘occupied Negev’]….” Ben Gurion reacted defiantly: “Israel has been attacked by six Arab States. As a small country, Israel must reserve the right of self-defense even if it goes down fighting (ibid, p. 121)…. As Ben Gurion once put it to me, ‘What Israel has won on the battlefield, it is determined not to yield at the [UN Security] Council table (ibid, p. 86).’”
As a result of Ben Gurion’s determined stance, “there was apparently indecision and much heart-searching in Washington…. Our [responding] note abandoned completely the stern tone of its predecessor…. Fists and knuckles were unclenched…. The crisis was past. The next few months marked a steady retreat from the intransigence of the United States’ May note….Washington ceased to lay down the law to Tel Aviv (ibid, p. 184).”
ReplyDeleteOn the eve of the declaration of independence, General George Marshall, Second World War hero and Secretary of State, who was then the most charismatic office-holder in the US, sent Ben Gurion a brutal ultimatum, demanding the postponement of the declaration of independence and acceptance of a UN Trusteeship. Marshall, along with Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, the CIA and the top Foggy Bottom bureaucrats imposed a regional military embargo, while Britain supplied arms to Egypt, Jordan and Iraq. They contended that a declaration of independence would turn the oil-producing Arab countries against the US, at a time when the threat of a Third World War (USSR vs USA) was hovering, which could force the US to fight an oil-starved war. They threatened that Ben Gurion’s unilateral declaration of independence would trigger a war, which could doom the Jewish people to a second Holocaust in less than ten years, since the US would not provide any assistance to the Jewish state. They contemplated an expanded embargo – unilaterally or multilaterally - should Ben Gurion ignore the ultimatum.
Ben Gurion did not blink. “[Ben Gurion] added that much as Israel desired friendship with the US, there were limits beyond which it could not go…. Ben Gurion warned President Truman and the Department of State, through me, that they would be gravely mistaken if they assumed that the threat, or even the use of UN sanctions, would force Israel to yield on issues considered vital to its independence and security…. [He] left no doubt that he was determined to resist, at whatever cost, ‘unjust and impossible demands.’ On these he could not compromise (ibid 49-50).”
Ben Gurion’s tenacity was vindicated when Israel was admitted to the UN, despite its rejection of the land-for-peace, Jerusalem and refugees demands, “evidence of the growth of respect for Israel (ibid, p. 110).” Moreover, Eisenhower’s Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, who was a delegate to the UN in 1949, admitted that the partition plan and the anti-Israel “Bernadotte UN Plan” were not adequate and that the US underestimated the Jewish muscle and determination. General Omar Bradley, the Chairman of the Joint-Chiefs-of-Staff, proposed to consider Israel as a major ally of the US.
Ben Gurion was aware that fending off pressure constituted an integral part of Jewish history, a prerequisite for survival and long-term growth, militarily, diplomatically and economically. On the other hand, succumbing to pressure intensifies further pressure, threatening to transform Israel from a unique strategic asset to a liability. On a rainy day, the US would rather have a defiant – and not a vacillating - ally.
Israel Peace at what price
ReplyDeleteI realize that this will not sound very nice to those of you, like myself, who were born and raised in a modern post-World War era; but peace is really not all it is cracked up to be. I say this because people who are not direct parties to a conflict like to use the word as a positive good, when in fact, it often has a negative outcome.
The classic definition of peace is an absence of hostilities by the parties to a conflict and a mutually-agreed upon cessation of hostilities does not seem to apply here. This technicality is the stumbling block between peaceful co-existence between us and the Palestinians. On paper, they appear to want peaceful relations with us; but in reality, they spend almost all their time and energies on supporting BDS movements and incitement in the press and in their schools and they have been doing this since Oslo. If someone dedicates a town square to someone who has died while committing a suicide bombing, this is not a peace we can live with, nor should the international community be insisting upon it and expecting us to accept this condition. There is no such thing as an expression of peaceful intention by use of high explosives. There is also no such thing as a “freedom fighter” when one already has the freedom to do as they please as long as it is done in a peaceful manner. When someone tries to rob an innocent individual of their right to life, they are merely your garden-variety terrorist.
Surely, it is nice to have quiet contiguous borders with one’s neighbors, but when does the quiet achieved become a zero-sum gain? The answer is: when your neighbors with whom you have reached a peace agreement still want you dead and out of the way. Peace at any price is an absurdity, both from a historical point of view as well as a practical approach to life. By its very nature, a lasting and stabilizing peace cannot be achieved between two parties who have vastly different approaches to life. Certainly, you can sit down with your enemies and discuss and then reach a kind of accord after considering borders, commerce and the like, and later make all kinds of pronouncements to your own political parties and your peoples. But this is not actual peace, either. And any politician who waves the banner of promised peaceful co-existence between two or more diametrically opposed peoples is being highly disingenuous, if not downright delusional and dishonest. Why do I believe this? Because no one really needs peace in order to exist as a nation and here is my proof:
The State of Israel has been in existence since 1948, give or take a few thousand years. In all that time, Israel has been set upon by a multitude of enemies from Assyrians to Greeks to Romans to Persians to every Arab nation on earth. All who have sworn to destroy the Jews and Judea and the modern State of Israel and have embarked upon their campaigns to make a reality of their words have so far been wildly unsuccessful. We have not only survived, we have thrived, and all that has been achieved was carried out while in a virtual state of war with all our neighbors. Evidently, there is something in our DNA that makes this reality occur throughout our history. If only our enemies realized this, they would be beating down our doors to sign peace agreements with us and then stick to them and we would cease to exist as a nation. As for those with whom we have an “uneasy peace?” When they stop fighting amongst themselves, they will once again turn their attention to our destruction. Using history as our guide, it is inevitable.
Here is another thing to mull over while our politicians attempt to garner favor with the electorate by throwing the word “peace” around willy-nilly. It is an election cycle and people say things that make nice sound bites but have no real chance of ever happening. They recognize that people are tired of war and hatred; but unless and until the inflammatory comments and incite-full rhetoric of hatred ceases from both sides to the conflict, there will be no peace. Perhaps it is time we stop looking for something which will never occur and focus on the reality. We simply do not need the Palestinians in our lives. We never have needed them, although they like to insist that we do. Likewise, we do not need anything from them. We do not need their resources and we do not need them in order to survive. That is another myth thrown around by them to ensure they keep getting the trillions of dollars they have already received and wasted from the EU, United States, Russia and the Arab world. It would be nice if someone turned off their money spigot and made them work for themselves and for their own state. And here, I am not talking about a physical “disengagement” from the Palestinians; but rather, a complete and total severance of all interactions, both security and commercial relationships. We have access to two seas and airspace to the world. Let the Palestinians find their own borders and make their own agreements with other nations. They will find the Egyptians amenable to their requests for border access as soon as they stop importing terror under their borders and killing Egyptian soldiers and policemen.
ReplyDeleteWe have already done the heavy lifting and have achieved much and will achieve more in the future. It should be obvious by now that the Palestinians are not interested in peace with us. Let the rest of the world figure that out for themselves. Let countries that claim we “occupy” the Palestinians give them land and resources and money˗˗lots and lots of money. Let Sweden, Denmark and Norway call us names. Who cares what they think, anyway? Rarely has anyone bombed their cafes, schools, bars and shopping malls, much less aimed missiles at them on a regular basis. These are countries that opened their borders to Nazis without stopping their military juggernaut. Perhaps when the Palestinians start flooding their countries with their own brand of jihadi ideology, suicide bombings and weaponry from Syria, Iran, China, North Korea and Russia, we can just sit back and watch. It is time for us to admit to ourselves that the Palestinians are big on racist incitement against us, but not really into that whole “love thy neighbor” and “we want peace” thing.
Re: Israel - To whom it may concern in Europe, Asia, the US and elsewhere:
BRITISH SECRET AGENTS CARRIED OUT BOMB ATTACKS AGAINST HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR SHIPS AFTER WWII The British intelligence service MI6 used bombs and covert tactics to try to thwart Jewish Holocaust survivors and refugees reaching pre-state Israel in the aftermath of World War II, according to a new book by Northern Irish historian Keith Jeffery on the history of MI6. This is not some speculative spy story that can be denied by the authorities since Dr. Jeffrey’s book is, in their own words, “published with the permission of The Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) and the Controller of Her Majesty’s Stationery Office.” Jeffery says that the British undertook the effort – dubbed Operation Embarrass – in order to curry favor with oil-rich Arab states upset over Jewish migration to the Middle East. In 1947 and 1948, MI6 planted explosives to disable ships docked in Italian ports before they could transport Jewish men, women and children from Europe to Palestine, which was at the time under British control. In addition to the direct physical sabotage, the British launched a disinformation and propaganda campaign against Jews to impede the establishment of their state. The British Foreign Office helped in these efforts, according to the archives cited by Jeffery. MI6 even considered blowing up the Baltimore steamship President Warfield (which later became famous as the “Exodus” ship that “launched a nation”) while in port in France. *** Please also see Andrew Roberts’ article on this subject further down in this dispatch. He notes that “The depth of the animosity that Establishment Britain, especially the Foreign Office, felt toward the Jews of Palestine clearly went even further than we had ever imagined, and even 70 years later is by no means extinguished.” - See more at: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdispatches/archives/001140.html#sthash.ZlbqLbHv.dpuf
ReplyDeleteIf Israel was in existence as a sovereign state from 1935 on millions of Jews could of been saved from the Holocaust.
The British in order to appease the Arabs violated the Mandate for Palestine and as trustee for the Jewish people. The British committed a crime when they restricted Jewish immigration at a time when it was most critical and could of saved millions, until 1948 when Israel as an independent country was re-established. I hold the British complicit to the death of over a million Jewish people, men, women and children. It is also the British government violation of the Mandate (the wanted the control of oil sources) and their bias towards the Jews as it is today, that the Middle East is in such turmoil. The French are right behind the British in their complicity and their Vichy Nazi government during WWII. The British also blew up Jewish refugees Ships of survivors of the Holocaust. British Intelligence Operation Embarrass. http://www.jidaily.com/X7ToZ
YJ Draiman
The Jews were not given the land in Israel and the Jewish part of the land was purchased from the rich Arab landowners at a premium price. During testimony in front of the British Peel Commission January 12, 1937 The Hajj Amin el-Husseini, the intractable opponent of Zionism, a Jew-hater who killed over 12,000 Jews in Bosnia on par with Hitler, admitted under questioning that no Arab land was stolen; no Arabs were wiped out, no villages destroyed. Rather, the Jews bought hundreds of thousands of dunam (about ¼ of an acre) of land from willing sellers, often from absentee Arab landowners. During the war of Independence in 1948. Then 5 nations waged war on them and got their skull handed to them. At that point, they earned it. Countries have tried to knock them off the hill, but Israel keeps winning, so, yeah, it's their land now. Deal with it. And sweetie, Hamas is a terrorist group. Innocent people are being slaughtered by Hamas...and then they hide behind innocent people as Israel fires back. It's surprising to see an American eat up Hamas's propaganda so easily. You're a liberal arts major aren't you?
ReplyDeleteI would be hard pressed to identify any (non third world, anyway) country today that exists without any change in "ownership." To me, the Native American Indians were in North America first. The Europeans "conquered" the country, built it up, more people came, land was partitioned back to the American Indians (reservations), where they (reluctantly, I'm sure) exist. Now, what would happen if the Native Americans decided that they wanted more of their homeland and started lobbing missiles into Oklahoma City? Do you think the US Government would just sit by?
The bottom line is that all these people in the Middle East can make claims and justify their land rights, depending on a point in time in history. Right now, there is Israel and there are surrounding Arab nations. The Arabs (and their derivatives) need to stop trying to destroy Israel and other terrorist acts and try and co-exist. It is pretty clear to most even-minded people that Israel has been living under constant threats and, given the fact that they haven't nuked their enemies, has been showing considerable restraint. The Palestinians (which isn't even a real "nation" by the way, if one reads history) have some land to call their own and it is called Jordan and so does Israel, which took care of the million Jewish people expelled from Arab countries, The Arabs countries confiscated their land, which is 4 times the size of Israel and are holding assets totaling over 15 trillion dollars. Amen.
I find it comical that people you are likening Israel's existence to that of a theoretical invasion of Indian reservations (Palestine) by the US Marines (Israel) ... as:
1) 30 odd percent of the Israeli population are Muslims and Christians, who live in an environment far more free than any Islamic equivalent...most of which either have or will fight for and defend their country in the IDF.
2)Islam really only came to be in the 6-7th century, prior to which most of the region were either Jewish or Christian.. The Quran uses most of the Old testament as its base, all of which, came to be in the time of Mohammed who was simply a descendant of Ishmael (Abraham's son)...so with this in mind, how are the Jews, equivalent to Indonesians invading Australia? ... In reality they are equivalent to Australian Aboriginals...Every Muslim that exists today is a descendant of something else... What's more, structures like the Western Wall and the Old city of Jerusalem predate Christ, whilst buildings sacred to Islam like The Dome of the Rock (built 691 AD...) came long after.
3) If we really want to be pedantic, one of the most holy cities in the Islamic faith - Medina, was a mainly Jewish before it was Islamic and 700 Jews were beheaded for not converting to Muslim faith and their wives and daughters taken as slaves and abused.
In regards to Gaza however, In 2005 Israel pulled completely out of Gaza, in 2006 when the Palestinian Arabs were able to vote in a legislative election for the first time in ten years, they chose Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that drew its popularity from its unwillingness to even entertain the thought of peace with the Jewish State.
ReplyDeleteThe 2006 election showed once again that the root cause of terrorism lay in a culture where political popularity came from killing Jews, not from bringing peace.
Hamas’ ability to carry out more spectacular terrorist attacks, employing motivated Islamist suicide bombers, gave it the inside track in the election. Where Western political parties might compete for popularity by offering voters peace and prosperity, Palestinian factions competed over who could kill more Jews. And Hamas won based on its killing sprees and its unwillingness to water down its platform of destroying Israel. If occupation were the issue, then the less territory Israel “occupied”, the more peace there would be. But the real world results of the peace experiment have led to the exact opposite outcome.
Israel’s withdrawals from Gaza and Lebanon did not lead to peace, they led to greater instability as Hamas and Hezbollah exploited the power vacuum to take over Gaza and Lebanon, and used that new-found power to escalate the conflict with Israel. The less territory Israel has occupied, the more violence there has been directed against her. The goal of the terrorists has never been an Israeli withdrawal and a separate peace, but the perpetuation of the conflict, and the elimination of the Jewish state.
Half a year after Israel withdrew from Gaza, Hamas swept the Palestinian legislative elections. Another half a year after that, a Hamas raid netted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit as a hostage. Barely a year after Israel had withdrawn from Gaza; Hamas had found a way to bring Israeli soldiers back into Gaza for a renewal of the conflict.
Cut off from attacking Israel directly by a blockade, Hamas deepened its investment in long-range weapons systems, even while complaining that its people were going hungry. After its takeover of Gaza, it significantly improved its weapons capabilities. In 2004, it had achieved its first Kassam fatality killing a 4-year-old boy on his way to a Sderot nursery school, but by 2006, its capabilities had so dramatically improved that it was able to launch its first Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon, the third largest city in Israel’s south with a population of over 100,000.
As the volume and range of Hamas’ rockets increased, Israel was forced to take action. In 2004, Israel suffered 281 rocket attacks. By 2006, that number had increased to over 1,700. In 2008, the number of rocket and mortar attacks approached 4,000 triggering Operation Cast Lead, also known as the Gaza War.
Operation Cast Lead destroyed enough of Hamas’ stockpiles and capabilities to reduce rocket attacks down to the 2004 and 2005 levels, but another dramatic increase in attacks in 2012, with over 2,000 rockets fired into Israel, combined with the smuggling of Fajr 5 rockets capable of reaching Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, forced Israel to carry out a series of strikes against Hamas in Operation Pillar of Defense.
Both times Israel did not choose a conflict of opportunity, but reacted to a disturbing level of Hamas violence, and had nothing to gain from the conflict except for a temporary reduction of violence.
The same is the case of Operation Protective Edge which Hamas launched over 15,000 rockets at Israel - No Nation in history would tolerate such attacks without a strong response to defend its population from death and destruction. Any other nation, the response would have been much worse and the destruction would of been almost total. Putin would of wiped Gaza of the map, in less than 72 hours and nobody could challenge him.
"We have to undue the decades of nonsense that the peace industry has fermented, which led us to the position where the world thinks we the Jews are occupiers in our own land.
ReplyDeleteIf something is false and it is repeated enough times it becomes sort of common wisdom.
We have to undo that."
I have long said, this isn't about land, but extermination of a religion and culture not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing. Would you still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I've read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, non-biased writings. I come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. Those in power rejected all and any attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. Don't start with who was there first, because when you look at it, there have been many successors and each took their place with the right to rule. So that argument is mute. Israel is the rightful successor, having won in war. Many times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking. I hope Israel does not repent, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves vulnerable. Might I remind you, on 911, there was one who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.
"We have to undue the decades of nonsense that the peace industry has fermented, which led us to the position where the world thinks we the Jews are occupiers in our own land.
ReplyDeleteIf something is false and it is repeated enough times it becomes sort of common wisdom.
We have to undo that."
I have long said, this isn't about land, but extermination of a religion and culture not accepted by another. I have actually asked the question, what if there was no 'holy land'. Say a natural disaster, dissolving the place into nothing. Would you still fight? Well, the answer was chilling and saddened me greatly. The answer was over and over, "we have the right to kill all non believers". I've read and re-read everything, from both sides, also, non-biased writings. I come to the conclusion that Israel must protect herself in every way possible or face genocide. Those in power rejected all and any attempts to recognize Israel's right to exist. Don't start with who was there first, because when you look at it, there have been many successors and each took their place with the right to rule. So that argument is mute. Israel is the rightful successor, having won in war. Many times. Sadly, it will continue, because when one culture wants another's elimination, there is no talking. I hope Israel does not repent, or give up any more land, because they will only make themselves vulnerable. Might I remind you, on 911, there was one who wished our extermination, right here in America. This will continue until education and humanity replaces a hatred, for no other reason, than to not accept that you exist.